Rockinnm, Good to see you venturing outside the thread. It's wonderful when you start to realize that all those hurtful remarks, that we took to heart, are the same crap that is being shovelled to everyone else in our sitch's. I've heard the "I love you like a friend", "I've never really been happy in this M" , "why didn't you say these things when it could have made a difference", etc. It's rather liberating to know that there is an affair mindset and often their ramblings have little to do with the reality at hand. Affairs must be legitimized and to do so the LBS must be made to take the brunt of the blame. Did you get "I've met my soulmate" that's an old favorite too! I started at one point to write these down, for laughs! Do I believe I was a perfect husband? NO. Do I dismiss her unhappiness? NO. Her feelings deserve respect. But I take these cliche remarks for what they are, cop-outs. I'm glad this thread is helping you in this terribly hard time.