"There are lots of areas on her body if given the proper attention can bring her to arrousal. But when she wears head to toe flannel PJ's, it can be impossible to get to all of them. There is only so far that you can push these flannel sleeves and legs before they get too bunched up on the body."

I guess it depends on which areas you are talking about, but why are you bunching up the sleeves and legs? There is a much more direct route, iykwim. Granted, my W likes it when I rub the back of her knees (although it isn't a sexual turn-on), you can do that through the flannel. I guess I also don't understand why the flannel itself is a problem. My W has flannel PJs, and I can remember (a long time ago ) getting her aroused by rubbing her breasts through the flannel. Its like a treasure hunt trying to find the nipple to play with. Of course your W is different than mine. I don't mean to imply that there is a one size fits all solution. But maybe you could try something like that.

"Honestly, who wants a spouse that operates this way?"

It doesn't really matter what anyone else wants, what do YOU want? Apparently you don't want that. So what are you going to do about it? Sit around and pout or form a plan of action? Its ok to feel sorry for yourself sometimes CeMar, but you have been stuck in that mode for far too long.

Got a question for you. I read back through some of your posts, and I have yet to run across a post where you said unequivicably that you LOVE YOUR WIFE. Sorry if I missed it. Do you love your wife? If so, say it, here as a response to this post. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would like to know the truth about how you feel toward your wife. I'm getting the feeling that you don't. Prove me wrong. I can tell you one thing for sure. If you can't say to us on this message board that you love your wife, then there is NOTHING ANYONE can do to help you fix things.

Let me say that for the most part, your posts come across as you wanting someone to validate your negative view of your wife. Can't you see that this frame of mind is getting you NOWHERE!!!!

OK, so now I've followed in the footsteps of several others and ranted at you. The only reason I'm doing this is that I'm hoping that maybe one more will provide critical mass for change in your life. I'm betting it won't, and that is really sad.

You are an intelligent person CeMar. I know you can figure this out. But it almost seems as if you WANT to be unhappy. That you have some sort of Munchausen syndrome or something.

Rant over.

Chrome.


"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"

Inertia Creeps by Massive Attack