Hi Frank_D

Just jumping into your thread when I read the below quote

'They aren't going to jump back into a relationship with us. They have had a 'plan' for many months and they can't just abandon it'

I am a very similar situ with my H....
My H and I are living seperate and he works away most of the week, but he has OW ( many of them, not just the 1), and I also have a BF but for past 2 months we have started seeing each other again and seeing how we get on....

I would jump straight back in with my H tomorrow if he asked me but he just will not commit....
I have been through everything in my head, a bit like you:
how long is he going to take to work out if he can commit to me or not?
Is his messing me about and having his cake and eating it etc etc
Is he taking me for granted, knowing I am here for him when he needs me etc etc

I understand how you feel. Its so frustrating. You go through so many different emotions all the time..
Some days you see progress and baby steps from them, then other days its like going back to square one...

All I ever say to myself is - if its working then why change it???
And if things are progressing for you Frank then why change how you are with your W?
Do you keep a journal at all? Have you got anything you can look back on and see what your goals were say 2 months ago, and see how far you have come with your W so far??

If you are anything like me, I think Patience is the hardest thing... wish someone could magic up some patience pills... I think some days you do forget to look at the positive baby steps and just get fed up coz you want things to change NOW.... I know I do......

Good luck and look forward to reading more