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Let me know what you decide. Look at ways to accomplish this goal.... A road trip would be good for me. I can bring the pony along for S3, and even the cart and harness and go for a buggy ride. Unlimited options!

Wacky week continues - I keep getting emails and txt mssges from 'ghoulish' girlfriend, wants to talk, has ideas. I said no thanks. Lurker friend gets braver, tracks me down in the store aisles now. Now I get email from BOW's XH. Yikes! what's next?


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A few positives –
- We talk a little more, H will even start a conversation, once he even asked about my work in town.
- He has come home a little earlier a few evenings.
- I was laying on the floor in front of a heater soaking it up, and he plopped down between me and the heater to ‘protect’ me from the heat, asked how it felt, I said good, he was gone in a few seconds.
- Helped with a sick mule, I had a mandatory meeting and couldn’t be home, H took care of it, which isn’t unusual, but he communicated with me about it. That's unusual!
- The Love Seat episode – no, it’s not at all like that! But it’s where I ended up sitting to eat since H has turned the table into his office. Out of the whole house, he came and sat next to me on the ‘short couch’ and we ate together.

A few negatives –
- We both seem more ‘snippy’ with each other. H’s new lead in line “I’m not picking on you but….” And then I hear about all the things I don’t do right. I can’t even put water in the coffeepot correctly. But not a problem, he makes the coffee, I drink it.
- If he hears me walking anywhere close to him, he gets real jumpy, looking over his shoulder, like I might get too close and touch him or something. One night he about jumped into the food pantry when I went past.
- H has said he’s not showing a horse anymore, but a guy called about participating in a clinic with our horse, H was all excited to be selected and started thinking about rearranging the 3 places he is supposed to be that weekend in 3 different locations. And here’s a 180 for me, instead of keeping my yap shut or helping him figure it all out, I said why would you go spend the money and learn more about that when you’re done showing? End of conversation.
- Had a short financial talk, H talked about paying down on his line of credit, I said that was great, and the mortgage payment is due in a few days, would he have half? He kicked the ground, looked at me, stammered, and said he thought he might. Then he asked how much we owed on the place. 180 for him. I didn’t know the exact amount, gave him an approximate, we talked about the appraised value vs the payoff.

I’d really like to know what direction my life and marriage is headed. I was soooo close to saying/asking something in the last few days, but I haven’t. We haven’t had an R talk for months, but lately it seems like we touch on a subject and back away from it. Seems it must be on his mind too. And what I see from positives and negatives above, he is dancing back and forth with his thoughts and feelings just as I am.

Our most interesting conversation this week has been about the red spots on my back. H had some a while ago, and now I do. I commented it made no sense that we’d both get the same thing, we don’t sleep in the same place, we don’t share the wash machine or use the same soap, a whole list of how separate we are. He came back with what we do that is the same. Wow. He does think.

I’m a little sore today. Riding a horse yesterday, got a little rough, and I’ve got some pretty sore muscles after that ride. I won, I stayed on, and the nice horsey and I went for a ride, my way. And then, just to make up for a bad ride, I went for a nice relaxing ride on my favorite horse with all the dogs with me, thru the fields and woods and snow. Nice.

I heard this yesterday - It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission. Still thinking about just what that really means.


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Overall, it seems there is progress. Keep it up. WCW.


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I heard this yesterday - It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission. Still thinking about just what that really means.




I think my H could tell you exactly what it means. If he asks permission there is a chance I'll say no, but if he just does it, then all he has to do is beg and plead for forgiveness for a day or two and he has won. He loves to use that one, I never really realized that there were words for it though.

I laughed out loud at the visual of him almost jumping into the pantry when you walk by. Obviously he is very "aware" of you. He is probably a bit like many MLCers, he wants to be close to you but when the moment happens he panics and runs.

On the R talk, will it be productive? If you have a feeling it won't, hold off for another time.


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Yeah, WCW, about that "pantry-jumping" thing -
I've seen it before. Can't remeber whose thread it was, but she went out to dinner with her estranged H, he took elaborate pains not to even brush against her walking through the restaurant etc. - like she had severe cooties. She was quite disappointed with the outing, but I told her I thought "methinks he doth protest too much". And if memory serves me correctly, he broke down the next day, came home, was all over her.

Perhaps you need to try seducing H in his sleep some night??? Or just do a little more heavy flirting?

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Great quote. In applying to my life, this is my interpretation, much as Becca's.

I can ask for forgiveness...and he will give it to me, as he very much cares for me. But, that does NOT mean permission back into his heart or life. Only when the giver is ready.

BUT, the same goes for you...are you ready to give permission?

Sounds like you DO have positives...certainly more in the last months than before.

What can you think of doing to ease the whole "he wants to run away from me?" How can you make common space more comfortable for both of you....it's the only way to bring about more moments like the "back spot check."

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I love the image of him jumping into the pantry!

Ellie's ideas are interesting. What do you think, WCW?


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- We both seem more ‘snippy’ with each other. H’s new lead in line “I’m not picking on you but….” And then I hear about all the things I don’t do right. I can’t even put water in the coffeepot correctly. But not a problem, he makes the coffee, I drink it.





Hmm...this seems like a real opportunity, WCW. He's actually starting to communicate some of the things that he thinks are making him unhappy. You might want to consider doing more listening between the lines than taking what he says at face value though. This is the kind of stuff that a good counselor would *love* to hear, I'm sure. And it is probably a great opportunity for you to do some validating and reflection and build a little rapport with him.

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WCW,

I see you are on. Can join in on the newest rollercoaster on my new thread?

The calm continues

Could use some of your input


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I got a raise today, I got a raise today...!!!! whahoooo!


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