Update--X and I met for a drink and she ended up not eating alot with the kids, so we got an appetizer to go with it. In general, the conversation went well. Mostly initiated by her. She talked about work mostly an had the following comments about it.

She told me that come August, she plans to leave there and take a month off to hang with the kids. (Nice to be able to do that!!! Ths is the part that she has never gotten about people like me who HAVE to work to support a family, even now. For her, it is just something to do and have extra cash.)

Another thing she brought up and was having difficulty saying; because she didn't want to toot her own horn. She said that the manager where she works tends to schedule the tall thin woman on weekends (transaltion=attractive).

As we talked a bit more, she pulls out her bosses business card that has the restaurants phone number on it. She tells me why don't you write it down in case you need it. (Not sure why she said that...Maybe I read too much into it; but it is easy enough to look up or call information. And it's not like I would have many reasons to call her there. On top of it she carries her cell with her, even while working???

The only funky thing was that she still would go out; but getting time off right now is a little bit of a problem. Then she starts saying how this other waitress wanted her to go for drinks next weekend. I said I thought you weren't able to get out. She said that she would go, if she is working, for one with this girl before going home. I guessthe girls birthday is next weekend and she and her boyfriend broke up. This girl is in her 20's and my ex is in her 40's???? i don't get it??? She also mentioned how that girl asked her before I did to do something. So, I guess I am not important enough or is this another self protective measure by the WAW???

She also wants to go some other places and her boss said why do you want to do that ? She told him, that you have a girlfriend and it's not like I have a boyfriend. (Like I wanted to hear that)

I guess I don' see my ex as one who would use me until something comes along; but I also didn't think we would be where we are right now. I am tryingto back off a bit; but not sure what she is thinking or if sh is thinking clearly. I have asked this before and I guess I will ask again. Is this typical for a WAW who might reconcile? IS ths just her not being ready. Is this something I should give some more time to??? I have read MF's threads....Thanks sam...I just don't want i to give me false hope.

So, ultimately, I guess I wonder when to know it is over for real. I would have thought this would have died out by now. I mean, I figured she would just say, stop trying...She sometimes seems to insinuate this; but never comes out and says it. She has never had a problem being direct about this type of stuff before. I am definitely confused.

One last bit. While swimming she lays out another regret. She says something like: "With the way I do things in my life, I should just kill myself" (Said jokingly)

I am going to try an get my kids and I together on Sunday for a family portrait whie she is working. She even gave me her discount card to the portrait shop. Whatperson does this for a ex she divorced and doesn't want?)

Frank