Thanks sam!!! I am reading MF postings right now.

I have learned patience with almost everything; but her. I guess I know I have changed alot about me that I wanted to and still have faults, etc.; but I guess I was hoping it was enough to get her and I on the right track and for awhile it seemed it might be; but as I said now she is pushing away again!!!

Well, I'll ride it out a little longer and see. But also am open to whatever else comes my way as far as other friends, women, etc. I just hope that if she wants something eventually, that she does show that soon; because I cna't keep doing this. Emotionally this up and down is draining. I have learned to control my emotions about it; but it still drains me.

Hard to want to say I love you and not be able to (I konow she knows I do and I think that scares her and pushes her away).

Frank