"I am in a crunch for time but hey lets face it I like talking about sex so I can squeeze in a moment or two."

LOL. Seriously though, your words do help me, so however many you can spare are appreciated.

"Actually if I recall correctly you said that she sometimes hugs you afterwards that is called EC dear boy better then all the wild thrust in the world."

So hugging her after her O while she lays on top of me, gently stroking her back and behind (man this still feels like TMI ) is something that many W like? I thought it was something nice to do, but I was starting to get the impression that maybe I should just go right at the wild IC afterwards.

"Also you play into this if she has O you can pick up the pace and see how well she responds to this."

I'm sorry, but I didn't understand this sentence.

"Slowly change the concept."

Man, not telling everyone exactly what the fantasy is, is really hamstringing your ability to discuss it cogently with me. Can you trust me when I say it would be difficult to change this concept in a meaningful way?

"But she is still willing to do it to give you what you want in a out of reality (lack of better wording) setting.
Yet she is inhibited to do so many things in reality.
Freeing her self of her moral consiousness."

I do see your point. My question/problem is, how do I translate her freedom in the context of the fantasy to freedom in the context of reality?

"I told my H it would make me hot to have him MB infront of me. He complied with no problem and was quite experienced at the art."

Hmmm. Interesting thought. I probably won't try that anytime soon with my W, but it is intriguing. The one difference of course being that pretty much every male has MB many times. I am positive my W has never MB. So asking her to do that would be like asking someone to get up and sing a song they don't know in front of a crowd.

"Then one night I took it further and asked him to spell out a fantasy he said he had none. I walked him through one that was totally not about me in no way shape or form."

So you just used some fantasy that you had heard about, one that a lot of men fantasize about or something? I do see your point very strongly. If the person doesn't know if they like Sushi or not, take 'em to a Sushi restaurant. The problem is, I need to educate myself on the location of the Sushi restuarants. Any pointers?

"But it also had a more profound side effect. H now knows I have no problem with him doing such things and feels free to do so with out having to be a hypocrite."

Wow. A very positive result. I know my W is very ambivalent about me MB. She doesn't like it at all as a matter of fact, so I don't let her know when I'm doing it. I'll have to admit that I even feel embarrased if she realizes I am doing it while it is going on. Sucks to feel that way about your W.

"Screams she is embarrassed of her own sexuality. That along with her response to the kiss causing a O and alot of other things."

OK. Do you have any suggestions as to how to solve this? I recognize the potential of the "MB in front of me" philosophy, but are there any other suggestions?

"Have her try putting her knees up not down and also try it with her facing away from you. If you do not already do this. The upper position is actually something that for a woman helps them control stimulation to there clit with a grinding motion and also helps them position it to there liking"

When she gets on top, she will generally start on her knees during the penetration phase, then move to laying fully on top of me afterwards. That position seemed to create the most pleasure for her, although it didn't allow for her to thrust as strongly. I'll suggest the reverse position next chance I get. The only question I would have about it would be that we might have difficulty with penetration in that position. Of course, the only positions we have tried are me on top, her on top, and her sitting in my lap facing me. Thanks for the tip!!

I did want to mention that one of her other common protests is that sometimes she "can only breathe out of one nostril so she can't kiss for very long." I will try to change positions so that I am not blocking that nostril, but it never seems to help. Half-hearted protest or serious NO? In your opinion of course? I'm guessing that asking "do you really mean NO or are you just testing me" is not something to do because it would result in the half-hearted protest becoming a serious NO as that would be failing the test.

"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"

Inertia Creeps by Massive Attack