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Frank, we both need to get the OM and our W's off the mind. ....


Yes, how? It's hard when I live with her, sometimes we interact AS IF we were married except for the touching, hugging, and other intimacy. Sometimes she is fun, will jokingly get in my face, just inches away ... I could practically kiss her then, but of course I don't. I do play along with the joke though. It's maybe once every couple days when she is in a playful mood. They're weird moments because I sense that she is trying to keep herself from getting too close but is having fun and it's an old 'habit' coming out, kind of against her will.

The past few days though OM's 'presence' can be felt here again so she is happy and nice but keeps her distance.
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The counselors you speak of, is one a DB coach and one a M counselor?



I only have one counselor. She is a counselor with all the degrees you expect, MFCC, Drug Rehab, etc. Very educated. SHe has a drug counseling center that the courts will send people to for counseling as part of their probation and has a very good success rate.

She focuses on healing the hurt in people by helping them to find the good and embrace it. She believes (as do I) that we all have our core 'gifts' of intuition, compassion, loving etc. and we have forgotten how, or chosen not to use them.

Which is why we have issues with life... we're out of balance. In my case I stopped loving myself and using my intuition to protect myself from people who would use me or hurt me. Wife has similar issues.

Counselor is sort of a DB'er but she is much better because she actually knows the psychology of my wife and knows our life. And she sees W. once a week.

Counselor believes in God, and says her job is to help pick up fallen angels.

I also see a Psychologist once a month for anti depressents. MOstly was on them to counteract years of depression. I only see her for 15 minutes as she knows I have a good counselor and she'll give me some quick insights from her experiences while I'm there. She is NOT a DB'er with WAW's because I think she has worked with so many who just leave that she has no patience with them.

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I am with you man, except my wife is already in business with the OP. To top it off it is about a block from my office......We will both hang in there as long as it takes. Okay?


I feel for you. In so many ways I feel like I shouldn't be complaining because a lot of others have much worse situations where they have to witness the adultery daily or on weekends. I know that if or when that happens here, I will have to have her move out because it will be too painful. I'd probably do a better job of coping if I wasn't also getting through depression, stopping drinking and job pressure all at the same time this is going on.

Yes, I will hang in there as long as it takes. Thank you for your support!


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