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Be a MAN. and I say that lovingly but I know for me, I had to learn what that MEANT. And it AIN'T being a 'nice guy' or 'mr sensitive' it's being someone that she sees as a rock, not bothered by ANYTHING she says or does. Not willing to whine, whimper or be needy. Not willing to violate his beliefs, values or life purpose to accomodate HER. Someone who stands in the face of adversity. THAT is what a woman wants. Are you that man?



I hear that a lot and I have to say "no, right now, I'm not" and honestly, I never have been. I also have taken great pride in it before. I think to believe that the only way to "be a man" is to espouse all those qualities is to suppose that every "woman" needs to be submissive, give you sex whenever you want it, be needy and many other things that many women are but a ton are not.
I am NOT disagreeing with you. What I am saying is that I was never any of the things (well, many of the things) that you say are what women want, and I always had my share of women, and also my wife who married me despite me not fitting the classic mold of a "man".
I don't know of my father instilled in me my beliefs or what, but I just never felt I needed to live up to anyone else's definitions. I am perfectly capable of defending myself. I am strong when it comes to business. I am aggressive when I need to be and can function without emotion when I need to.
I feel I am a man, but according to your definition, and "what most women want", my having emotions I am not afraid to show, being sensative, kind and considerate does preclude me from being one.
Again, you KNOW I value your opinion, so I will think hard on this one. For me to accept this I would have to change my core beliefs and as a man, I don't know if I can do that...lol.
Great post as usual, and makes me think about a lot!

Oh, and sorry Tim, this interlude of hijacking is now over....

TMU


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