I really don't know how you can define when they are moving stages or where they are. I was hoping to become wiser, but it is all a blur to me. I just pray that my kids and I get through this and the outcome is positive. I can tell withdrawl and depression even replay, but can't tell if he is in them within replay or when he is coming out. I am just trying to do what I need as suggested long ago and stop figuring it out. Like I have said he seems to go forward and then stop and take a step back, then forward again. I do see he hasn't been down so low like last Nov-Feb when it was obivious, sleeping, not showering, etc. He just acted like everything is hopeless. He has made a few comments where you could tell he felt hopeless or depressed but no major changes for a long time. Like I said just hoping it comes out in the end what is best for all of us.