Hindsight is 20/20, or something like that. Apparently you did push too far. Go back and read the Last Resort Technique in the DR book. I just re-read it again with my highlighter this time. I just started to read The 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman - maybe see if you can get a copy of it. It basically says what you may see as loving behavior, your wife may not. She may think that if you mow the lawn, take out the garbage, etc. that you are showing that you love her. You may think that by calling her during the day and giving her letters is loving. But these two things are very different....anyway re-read DR and keep coming here for support. Hang in there my friend, we WILL end up on the success story thread!! Sheila