Well, Hairdog, I wanted you to know of the beginning of the end. After many years of SSM, multiple attempts to seek help, time and time again, I asked her at the MC's office for a seperation. Her reply was very angry, and she indicates she wants to divorce. Today I will sign a contract to buy another house, and pick up my clothes. She was nice enough to place them in plastic garbage bags last week. Last night was the last time I'll sleep in the house that used to be a home. Two of my kids understand and support my decision to leave. It's a relief and a very sad occasion. This board has helped me in this difficult journey, to understand my feelings, to not give up on my hopes for happiness, to know I'm not alone in my reponses. I feel a genuine caring and love that comes from this forum,and we are not alone. I know you all will be there for me, in the future, as I sort thru issues that I do not understand. I thank you for it. Hairdog, as a fellow mid-western snow shoveler, I wish you well in your ongoing struggle. God bless you all.