I will respond here on the new thread and say that no, these things would not (and have not) worked with my wife, either. It's an HD/LD "Catch-22" (the other is that "Women need a strong EC to ML, and men need to ML to feel a strong EC") that women find tentative men UNATTRACTIVE, but men who have been repeatedly rejected get tentative.
They want the guy to confidently take them, if and when ALLLLLLL of their planets line up (not that time of the month, feeling good about the marriage, no money worries, no stress with the kids, not too tired, not too hot, not too cold, didn't have a fight today, etc., etc.), but then they reject us repeatedly and suck all of that very confidence OUT of us and tell us that our timidity is a big sexual turn-off.
