(((((((Frank)))))))

I'm so sorry. It does suck to be a grown up! I'm thinking about quitting. After all, my H is almost 50 and he's NEVER been one. If he can get away with it, why not me

Oh, yeah, now I remember why I won't do that......because I am a person of integrity and so are you!

Wondering why you didn't just call W yourself after speaking with your D? Wouldn't that have taken D our of the middle?
You could have left it with your D that you needed to speak with W first. I know it's hard when your kids are reaching out for help. Remember your D is really hurting right now.

Another dynamic that I see at work here is this. I don't have any daughters but my experience with friends is that teenage girls get really pissed off when their moms try to behave like teenagers. (Dressing young, flirting w the high schoolers that stop over, tuning in to the "kids" music, etc) I think you get my drift. This pisses off teenage girls even when there is no marital strife going on. I've never experienced this just observed from the outside. Don't know if it helps you at all.

Also, I agree with putting away the pictures, mementos, etc. You're torturing yourself and stirring up feelings you shouldn't be dealing with right now.

Hang in there!

Spitfire


Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest.
Mark Twain