Gave stig a chance to reply first to you lfl

Both of you tend to take an all or nothing approach to your R. She's either all in or she's out of your life completely.

speaking for me, yes. I gave her another chance. I owned my mistakes and then made apparently another. I dont really give people who F me over a second chance. I warn em once. Their loss. I make deep EC with poeple once I choose to, but in general dont make any with superficial friends. She knew of this and saw this happen. Life is short I dont have time to waste with that kind of lack of boundary on my part. She is the only one I have ever had a hard time doing it with. I still struggle with it at least once a week. If I didnt know the science behind love emotions I would still probably we trying...


This is also a typical male vs female reaction. Dr. Harley mentions it. He also contradicts himself fairly regularly about what should be and what has to be done to reconcile with a WAW. I believe in DBing down to my core, but I dont believe in it at all costs. MWD, as much as I admire and respect her, I disagree with not ferreting out affairs. Love must be tuff, and better it goes with a bang, then a slow wither and wimper.
I made my best effort to make myself open to and available to a true honest reconcil the second time, though I did want the timer of the D running in the background. For me there is no remarriage. People fall back into old ways of relating even after a long time of seperation. For her that means lying, cheating, affairs. No thanks. she proved that twice. She thinks of me as being such a terrible husband and person that she could justify it. Somehow my relating to her, I was unable to provide her with what she needs. Ok. I was unable to fulfill her survival need and provide her with the proper brain chemistry. In her words I am 'bad for her', so-- I will stay away from her. She told the judge that there was no chance, nothing could possible fix our R. I went just so I could hear that. That is her perception of me. Valid. Her words, her choice, and I am no longer going to use my skills with frame control and attraction and knowledge of R/M dynamics.
Im going to stop talking now, cause I dont know which is talking anymore my emotions or my logic. I feel nothing, but my feeling of nothing is slightly passionate in tone.

Mines done. I wont ever allow myself to love another like I did her. (this is why nops says to wait at least a year. so I can calm down.) That makes me sad and feel a great emptiness. Next time, god forbid, the woman will be out at the first inappropriate word, without a word. I will file instantly and if I have kids do everything in my power to retain complete custody of them. Whoever she is will know this.

Last edited by blackfoot; 12/20/05 07:26 AM.