Hi Lou,

Don't know how readable this will be as I just discovered I had a new reply, and it's very late.

I actually have a hiking date tomorrow with the guy that asked for exclusivity on Friday, and a New Year's Eve date.

Yes, I did say that exact thing that you suggested, I told him that I saw my H sometimes. But then I really did go dark for almost a week and told him that I wasn't seeing my WAH. Well, I broke the dark over the holidays as you've probably seen in my latest thread on the Separated forum.

Let's get to your questions about how to get the W to be physical. To tell you the truth, I didn't think I could be all the way intimate because of my age and the fact that I don't take estrogen. This I found out is absolutely not true! I can and I am and I don't take estrogen, period.--though I do eat a lot of soy and other kinds of things.

The way that I'll suggest to you isn't popular, completely honest, or easy. But it may work. If your W thinks that you are interested in somebody else, this would probably change her stand on not being interested in Romantic intimacy.

Now how you can do it without actually finding someone else is your creative challenge. Remember, she just has to think that there might be a chance that she could lose you, and chances are this might bring her around. But of course there are not guarantees.

Sex, actually begins in the mind. And what we firmly believe becomes our reality. Sexual intimacy can happen at almost any age--if the person is physically fit. It's a matter of use it or lose it.

Thanks for the response, sorry I can't comment further. Hope to hear from you again.

Rere