Re Choc Sounds to me, Lou, like it was the tried-and-true method of "threaten divorce."

I get that point. I was just wondering what else was involved from csw and or his wife.

Sometimes I would like the other spouse's input. I suspect Mrs csw would say the divorce paper was a "10" as why she dumped OM but were csw getting a job with benefits and talk about starting a family just "2" points topics.

short of LEAVING or THREATENING TO LEAVE, that this chit works Well it worked for the NOP's only after a very long time. I don't know about Jenny, she disapeared. she was one one of the posters where D was discussed.

In my case, sometimes the more good I do, in my way of thinking, the less I feel like it is working. Other times doing the right things works and has it's rewards.

Lou