Wllowwlk and Gabriel...Thanks so much for your input and support. I have been having a hard day today, as I saw my X and also went to her 2 sisters houses to bring gifts to my neices and nephews...

My X told the sister that is closest to her that we went out for drinks a few weeks ago and I couldn't read whether her sister has any indications on what she thinks...So, as I always do, I think the worst.

Anyway, I will make the list you talked of. Also, I will have questions on how to determine whether to keep hoping it turns or to give up??? I'm sorry, I know I am backsliding; but it's hard.

On a positive note, I approached a woman yesterday coming out of a place she and I were in...Not something I normally do; but hey I did it!!! Unfortunately, she was married and just not wearing her rings :-( Told me I made her day and I told her that her =husband was lucky to have such an attractive wife!!!

Well, Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you as well. I am sure I will need some support and input from each of you in the coming year if you can give it!!!