Underdog. I was happy to see you posted to greekgoddess thread. She, along with you, ( I think it was you that said your dad slept on the recliner) gave me some insight about how staying up late and not sleeping with BB was causing problems.
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Lou--I still laugh at your funny paragraph about being old vs. previous

Well, Betsey, the background on that one came from a college class. The prof. said he was disappointed the students were writing papers using words like high school students would use. He said we were in college. He said, for example you can sweat in HS but educated college students perspire. He said he did not want to see any more sweat hogs he wanted to read papers from perspiring swine.

The word old can be taken several ways if taken out of context. I was playing it safe and writing so a person with little English experience (certainly not you Betsey) would know what I wanted to convey. I wanted to be a step removed from "folksy" style writing.
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Or are you looking for a particular subject matter?


I was thinking, I am/was a little like Mr. W and stuffed some feelings with BB or typically don't say much until my feelings get cooking and say some things that come across as somewhat angry.

Example. I bought a car from a relative. It had a defective tire on it but we did not know it at the time. I replaced the tires and told relative about the bad tire and how much better the car handled and rode with the new tires.

The relative heard, "you sold me a car with bad tires” and they should have replaced them before selling the car to me.

What I had in mind was "Those tires looked good and I guess I was not as good a tire expert as I thought I was and I am surprised how much improvement this different brand of tires contributes to the ride and handling of the vehicle. BB and I get into this type of interchange that is what I want to improve.

A couple of weeks ago, with the prodding of BB's "Act like you are rich" relative, she and I looked at a Hummer3. I told the salesman I had no intention of buying the H3 and suggested we might be wasting his time.

I knew he was on commission and even though I appreciated his help, I did not want him to lose a potential sale with some other serious customer. The sales man was interacting with me as if I were interested in the H3. I said BB was interested and I was along for the ride and we really had no business looking at something like a H3. (Information=BB's car is a 1997 compact SUV with 39K miles on it.)

When we got home BB told her friend that I "knocked her block off" with my comments at the car lot.

With the above information, If I were a little like Mr. W and BB were somewhat like the "former", not old Betsey, which book would be your favorite. My goal would be to learn to detach more (which I have done and continue to do) and to change some of the dynamics of some of BB's overly negative opinions of what I do to her and maybe help her see some of the good things she seems to miss and feel like she is being cheated out of some how.
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I'm still up to taking her as my date to the gay prom in February, but that means she needs to come to Denver to go with me.

Betsey, you have me beat on the same gender subject. I have no problem with most lesbian relationship or issues. Intellectually I understand most of the reasons for gay relationships.

That is saying a lot for me, considering 39 years ago when I saw a guy kiss and make out with another guy out by the lake, I almost threw up, really. They were 300 feet away from BB and me. I think some of my reaction back in 1966 was biologically based.

I still get up set internally when I read about gay men hooking up with several partners but I also have a similar problem with guys that seem to have a new ho every other day. I have one gay customer that is a little flamey (touchy feely). He is OK but I would not spend an evening with him.

I have since watched several gender change programs on the TV medical channel and had a couple of college class sessions on the subject. I was the only guy in a "Women's Issues" class. Two of the women were lesbian and told stories about their gender preferences and some of the problems the work at to overcome. One woman was mostly heterosexual but was raped and treated poorly by men. Sad story, I think it will take her a while to recover her identity and safety issues.

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But I really do like men in bed. It's just me

Works for me. Any more comment from me might be considered flirting. I have to maintain my "doing the right thing" immage.

Lou