Thanks for your messages guys. Some interesting things have been happening. Actually, Choc, I'm minded of the song "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone". Since Friday night I have really backed off. No cuddles (even when I got into bed - unheard of), no ILYs or anything and clearly she has sensed something has snapped somewhere. Three times she came up to me and gave me a cuddle (I reacted as she normally does and treated it as a bit of an irritation but put up with it nonetheless). She even kissed me on the cheek once for no apparent reason - I don't remember her ever doing that before. When I left on Sunday night to come down to Devon instead of the usual peck she kissed me full on the lips, nice and soft too an absolute first as usually the closest I get is sort of near the corner of her mouth (sad isn't it?). I go back home on Wednesday and the way I'm feeling I can keep up this stand back attitude and see just how far she will go to make amends. Friday will be interesting because I'm not going to initiate anything (not even talking about it) and let her decide what happens. Oh and another thing. When I'm away I always phone her about 8pm. Well last night she phoned me first. OK she had some interesting family news but it could have waited so I think that at last she is putting some work in. I feel that there is a glimmer of something to look forward to so I'm feeling a bit better. Quote hairdog "I'm with Honeypot". When you wrote those words HD what went through your mind? Just imagine for a moment the wondeful life (and you're not Hindu so you only get one) if only... POP! - back to reality. SD