Lillieperl, You have so elloquently put into words what all of us know inside. A Leopard just can't change his or her spots and that applies to HDs as well as LDs. In so many ways this board and the wonderful people here prop up each other's hope but deep down we all know that in reality things will just carry the same. I come back after a few months to the same locking of horns between Mr & Mrs Hairdog, the same desperation from CeMar, the same fabulous HD women - any one of whom would make HDs like me happy beyond our wildest dreams - yet their husbands just don't have the emotional resources to know what gems they are married to. That hug you had from your bf said it all. Cher sings "It's in his kiss" and you know that is absolutely true. There is nothing in my W's kiss that I can detect other than indifference but the nature of the HD is to allow their own overflowing love and optimism to keep on believing and keep on trying. SD