Unfortunately I'm fighting a W who is trying to be the cool hip mom. I kind of stood up to her the other night when I felt that staying up with them past 2:30 was a little excesive. No I don't think she gets the point yet, but I stated my case, what she does with it is up to her. She seems to think she has better answers to everything than those who know what their talking about. We either learn from wise people, or relive their mistakes. Why a parent would set a child up to fail is beyond me, however I have learned that parenting is a team effort, if your not on the same track your likely not going to accomplish much.