I hope it's not hopeless b/c I'm gonna get my papers this week and I still want to save my M and even after the D i think I would still like to be with him but right now I really need to dr my but off b/c we had a really good conversation today about what we both want out of this for our kids and how we are struggling with our bills and stuff like that but my H thinks this is just something he has to do so I can move on and he can move on. the one thing I did wrong was to say a smart comment about the OW but after he looked into my eyes and said they are not together I felt much better now I have to show him that I can and have got over her.and maybe we can stop the D or be better friends after it. I really love him and he knows that and he feels that the hurt is so bad so I need to show him that I'm over that to.We also discovered that both of us were telling each other we were going out and gal but that that was just a front. We were indeed just telling the other person that so we could act as if. but I'm still gonna try my best and hopefully it will come together Joa.