Hairdog: "Provoke" may bed a poor word choice. I'm trying to do something, ANYTHING, to get her to come to the "realization" Corri mentioned. I can't get her all the way there perhaps, but surely I can point her in the right direction? You're trying to do this with your wife too, no? Maybe it's impossible, but you gotta try.

That's why I asked about Corri's experience.