And I cannot believe that you'd listen to a woman who had an affair with a man for TWELVE years, a man who is a macho turd, and completely discount the words of the women on this forum who are fighting for their men and their marriages, tooth and nail. Boggles the mind. Yeh, well, I could have expected that attack. But my response is, I suspect I wouldn't have gotten past first base with most of the women on this board for the very reasons I have given above. I don't want to engage in macho, ballsy, directive behavior, which is what most women on this board seem to respond to. My WS didn't seem to want that from me when were getting to know each other. Quite the contrary. She had had enough of that from her first husband (mr. macho man). So, and again we didn't really discuss this in detail, because being a man, I get bored with discussing relationships at length, but I assumed my WS was willing to give the "other side" (gentle, kind, considerate, generous men) a chance.
"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places." - Ernest Hemingway, A Farewell to Arms, 1929.