rabbithole, thank you so very much. i just wrote my W a long letter, because our 10 yr anniversary is the 4th of november, and sent it. it was a declaration of love, and that no matter what happened, i love her and Ds..... i explained my sadness, that the past is the past, but how i missed them, and why i love her, and Ds. it was crazy......... but after 4 months i felt like telling her that, i also told her that maybe she would think that i was a pain in the a.. and that i should move on, but that my love was rock solid and even is she married again and had 1000 kids, i am here waiting for her........... it was really crazy, but i had to do it. maybe a slip, but it was the first time i have been straight out. well, anyway, i really appreciate your input and believe me, i will read your comments with great attention. thanks again.