LFL=PITA. I pity her H. Always having to be 'on' and such.

Oh, Bf you love it, don't try it. And don't steal my lines. I was the one who told You that I felt I would always have to feel "on" around you. Thus, the LFL/BF love affair will never come to fruition. It would go up in flames. You are like a cold beer a woman slams back once in a while, not a fine wine. But you have potential to be a fine wine. That's my bare brutal assessment. And you know I really like you as a friend BF. But let's face it. Women will not TRUST you long term. They will test and test.
Oooh, that reminds me. I want to find stuff you wrote about me on Cobra's thread to make my point.

Here it is:
Most women respond to attractive qualities with a test. they have been let down or disappointed in the past and now they dont believe it when they see it. So they fight what they are attracted to.

For example, since LFL has stated that my qualities are attractive, I will use her as an example. look at how often she is always telling me to stop being macho, talk about my insecurities, poking testing. she likes the qualities but doesnt want to or wont believe it is real. Women try to destroy what they like because it has so much power over them.

Make sense? mmmmm no but yes. They're women.

these qualities make them feel submissive (which they sometimes translate as weak) and wanting to be intimate, (vulnerable). This is scary especially when it has led to disappointment. That is why I say ignore their reactions. its based in fear. and the real reason for it is they like it and dont want too.

HP has agreed with this. Good wives fight this tendancy to constantly test and therefore destroy that which they like. Yours has no reason to stop because she doesnt perceive you as worthy and you kept failing them. You can change this though. With actions, not words or books. Understand?

Thats why womens 'tests' amuse me, because it just tells me they like me. This is why their tests should never anger you, and be dealt with in a firm, yet unemotional manner.
Like the phrases and gestures I have given to you and others.
That was a great post BF and I'm not being sarcastic. You were absolutely right about most of it. However, you admit that women don't like it, don't trust it, etc yet also state too bad, that's how I am so live with it. Hmmm. That spells trouble. Do women really fight what they are attracted too? Yes and no. We want those macho qualitites like a said, short-term, but long term, we realize we need more. Any smart woman will instantly realize when she is dealing with a "player" and respond accordingly - take them home for a night of fun, tease them on the boards (lol) or worst of all, fall in love with them and never feel truly comfortable in the R. I fear your ex may have been #3. My educated guess is she never really trusted you to be true to her so she sabotaged it before you had a chance to hurt her. Self-protection that only hurt her more in the end but she can at least always say, well BF didn't cheat on me, I did it to him. F-ed up I know but makes some sense. I think Lil was right, you never really shared the problems in the R before the affair. I can assume some of them but I'd like to hear it from you, unless you think it's all water under the bridge now. Still, it might be enlightening for future R. kwim?

My filters are on high alert. Why did she say that, what did she mean by that? Is that a test, or just circumstance. Its almost like a crash course. LMAO. Its so obvious.
Don't contradict yourself BF. I think you do question why I say this and that just like any of the women on the board. As you should. Am I testing you? You bet. I'm giving you a B+ so far. Still need improvement though. Can't you just be more macho-sincere instead of macho-cocky? For instance the way you ended to thread: I cant believe I am aiding and abetting this thread litter
Why so harsh? Plus, I don't buy it because if what I wrote was really thread litter you wouldn't have even commented at all. And you wouldn't have brought me up in other posts. Oh wait a minute, I forgot. Boys like to tease and pull ponytails when they like someone so carry on.
Oh, about the dominant/submissive theory that TSinA is about to have an aneurysm over, I think it makes tons of sense. You already know my take on this in the bedroom Lol but I think it gets into a problem in the rest of life Only if the man comes off too dominant. That is all I am saying about your own style BF. You can be macho/dominant just tone it down a notch. The woman can be submissive just not a wallflower. Going too far to the extreme either way is not going to work. Find a happy medium would ya? You already have some very sincere, thoughtful qualitities. When you start a new R, just be wary of coming off as too much of a player. Sure women like it but even if you did everything right in the R she will still not believe you can go so far against your nature. The players of the world "play", with women, with emotions, with jobs, with everything. Labels can become a reality. Maybe get away from the whole macho player mentality. I know it would be hard for you but it will only bite you in the butt in the end. I'm just having my own stream of consciousness here. Hope some of it was helpful if not just entertaining. I'm still working on this "case study."