GEL I am strongly against him flat out explaining it. Generally in my experience women do not want a man to need them. It is not strong, or independant. You figured it out. That is entirely different, and is exactly what the Men Women adore book trys to teach them. For the women here, there are far better books for less then the $40. I thought it was overpriced. I dont see anyone here except maybe Chrissy or LFL, for differrent reasons, not lumping you two together, who may benefit from it. DB when applied will lead to the same results but maybe not with a clear understanding, or enlightened moment like GEL had.

I have seen the looks on womens faces when men say I need you. 2 friends 1 losing long time GF, 1 going thru D. My mom and stepdad during there D. Various voyeuristic moments as a bartender.

A bloated rotting horse carcass would seem to be the fountain of youth compared to the revulsion, derision, and abhorrance they show when a man does this.

No I have to unequivocally veto this particular idea, especially at this juncture in ther R. Too supplicating, to desperate, to ... needy.

His W does actually need him in many ways and she is ungrateful and spouts off garbage about not doing so. She wouldnt appreciate this as an attempt at EC or becoming closer.