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Baltoman:

My wife is excatly like this. She uses the excuse that she is a teacher and one of her students might see (in public). I have not kissed her in at least 5 years. These ladies want PARTNERS in life, they do not want LOVERS, and that is something that makes absolutely no sense. I have never been able to figure out why LD's like this want so little out of life, being partners is a very LOW form of relationship. My guess is that she is not only very unhappy with your relationship, but the real driving factors are that she is very unhappy with herself, that her body is NOT doing the things she wants it too.

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Mine's a teacher too although I've never heard the student excuse.


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CeMar...

Your statement of "that her body is NOT doing the things she wants it too." is pretty presumptuous. Saying something like "she's unhappy with herself" or "unhappy with the relationship" that would be pretty accurate in my estimation....but you don't have any way of knowing if your W or any other woman is unhappy "that her body is NOT doing the things she wants it too."

That sound like you projecting again. Just speaking frankly...it sounds like that's what you think she should think.

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These ladies want PARTNERS in life, they do not want LOVERS, and that is something that makes absolutely no sense

Yeah well, personally I doubt it. They have repressions, and social stigmas, and acquiescing by going along and playing into them just makes them stronger more valid. YOu have to ignore, and break them in funny ways.

Who is the man here? This is not a dig at your ego. Whats the worse that happen if you just do it? I have to say this for the dumb lurkers, that doesnt mean you just grope and throw her down in the grass and dry hump her. (though that can be funny too...) You have to monitor and see if what you are doing is really trully irritating to her, or if it is just a conditioned response.

Baltoman I like your response, I think you see where I am headed with this. I do what I want, -strong- and then try to take what she is probably thinking, voclaize it, poke fun, and then flip it and blame it on her. Its challenging to my creative side, not my strength, and funny for me and usually (hopefully) her. If it is truly irritating to her I will make a note and not do it again, BUT not apologize.
That will lose you soooooo many points you may as well not try anything.

by the way, Morton's = mmmmmmmmmm. I like Lawrys the best though.

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Interesting note on this…

"that her body is NOT doing the things she wants it too."

My wife described how she felt BEFORE taking thyroid medicine in this way, that her body didn’t act the way she wanted. She knew that she should respond in a certain way, mentally and physically but her body didn’t cooperate.

I struggled with the issue of ‘if she has orgasms, and she likes the way they make her feel, shouldn’t she want to have more of them’ and didn’t understand why she didn’t. It is this kind of body out of control feelings that she had.

She has told me that she didn’t realize how much her body wasn’t cooperating until she started taking the medicine. I have seen dramatic changes physically and mentally in response. For example, from a purely physiological response we no longer need to use ‘Lube’ she now gets wet during foreplay. Body is a funny thing…

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HDSocal wrote
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‘if she has orgasms, and she likes the way they make her feel, shouldn’t she want to have more of them’


I believe Chrissy has addressed this very subject (Mrs. NOP, too, though I may be wrong about that), namely, yes, an O feels great but they would be fine with never having one ever again. (Sorry if I misunderstood-- please set me straight if I got that wrong.)

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Nope Lil you were right on the money with this. This conversation came up on another thread and I stated that very thing! No matter how great it is afterwards I do not really care if I have another one or not.

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Lillieperl:

I have seen this posted and yet, I am completely baffled by this. Orgasams are great but they never WANT them. How the heck can a simple guy EVER understand a women when I see stuff like this? This is completely illogical! I know it happens, but it still makes absolutely no sense. Why do people INTENTIONALLY want to deprive themselves of the BEST things in life?

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I'd like someone to explain it to me, too.

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Does anyone here know anything about the medical side of this? Orgasm releases all sorts of endorphins. It almost sounds like there is a chemical imbalance that does not create the same sensation in ND/LD people. I suspect the rest of us are actually “addicted” to the feeling in some way, but these others never get “hooked.”


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