"go easy though, This isnt an antidote to a poison, this is going to take time. Its not going to get all better in 2 weeks. OK."
OK.
"well do a 180 for now. Food for thought."
I have been trying to do so. Will try harder.
"Im absolutely guessing here, but I think she will want to hear why you love her. Wait for another opening. Dont push it. You wear your heart and feelings on your sleeve, she is (probably)the opposite. You have to give her reasons to trust you and then she is still going to want you to drag things out of her. PITA. I know. Make it fun."
I think if I didn't have this giant uncertainty about the physical side of our relationship hanging over my head, I would have an easier time of making it fun, seeing it as a challenge etc. I'll work on it.
"Your a really smart guy, they arent glass figurines, people have been raising kids for millenia. Make this important to you and and I am betting you will get major respect and appreciation, and those are just the fringe benefits."
Not a bad idea. Maybe I have deferred to her too much, just assuming that is what she wanted (i.e. she rules the roost while I bring home the bacon). I'll put some feelers out there and let you know.
One other point I forgot in the last post. While the EA may be in her mind right now causing problems, the lack of affection/intimacy/sex had been going on LONG before.
"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"