I agree with BF and you on this, and many of the ladies are saying basically the same thing. I do want to work on our relationship to make it better. I am laying low right now until the first MC session. I'm not saying I'm going to let it all hang out there, or it is going to be a real eye-opener for the W, but I'm looking to that as the starting point for us communicating again about our relationship.

"But my point is that women's decisions are influenced so much by how they feel. Some are aware of this and understand how their intellect is influenced by their emotions."
I think some guys (myself included) tend to lean this way as well. I guess I have some gender confusion.

That is an interesting story about your wife. You definitely have some brass ones if you could hear your wife say "no sex ever again" and not fly off the handle. I know I would. It would be a "deal breaker" for me (assuming it wasn't because of some physical issue). I guess though everybody is different. You have learned that your wife will make ultimatums (or is it ultimatae ) like that and really doesn't mean them in the long term. I think if my wife said something like that, she would really mean it and I would have a VERY hard time dealing with it.


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