Neandertal and Neanderthal are both technically correct spellings. The Neander is a river and “Tal” is the German word for valley. But when the first fossil was discovered in 1856, the word for valley was spelled “Thal”. Neanderthal man was named for where the fossil was found – in the Neander valley. (Just like Clovis man was discovered near Clovis, New Mexico.) In any case, there were numerous spelling changes in German in 1904 to make spelling and pronunciation more consistent. At that time, the spelling of valley was changed from “Thal” to “Tal”.
So you have your choice. At the time the name was coined, it was spelled “Neanderthal”, so it would be quite correct to use that spelling. But since it’s a German word, it would also be correct to use the current German spelling: “Neandertal”
That's interesting Z-Bube. I knew people pronounced it both ways but in undergrad, the professors always pronounces in TALL. I assummed they knew their stuff. Seems you do too.
Your timing is so collossally bad that I cannot keep quiet any longer! Glob, PLEASE for the sake of your M and kids, just chill for a few weeks and let the woman heal. I think you are correct, Honeypot. The timing sucks. A few weeks is totally resonable. My impression was he was venting here more than anything and not directly to his W. Thus, talking in the posts about what they will be discussing in C. Nothing wrong with preparing now for later.
Intereasting conversation going on here. LFL I like what you post about feelings and not going back to the old you. It is helping me with some things I am working on.
Glob, I once heard about a a space-based interferometer?... Glad to be helpful Og_Lou! This post cracked me up. We are being all touchy/feely in the posts and you go right into all that manly "space" stuff. LOL I'm just busting your chops Og-Lou! I do it too, thus the NEANDERTHAL comments. I like that we can talk about the serious business of M but also get to know each other better through common interests and have some stimulating conversations. If you can't get stimulation in the bedroom you may as well get it on the boards LOL
I know he's just venting but...talking about it all day, along with OW withdrawals are *definitely* going to affect his mindset when he sees her, how he talks to her, what he's thinking about when he gets home...it's all bubbling up inside him and he wants to say it but is "waiting". She knows something's going on--we chicks are intuitive like that. And thinking affects behavior, kwim?
I guess what I was saying was for him to focus on himself and his personal goals during this time. It will be a much more productive way to while away the hours AND there will be no temptation to blurt out his thoughts and set himself back. Plus, it's gotta be done, anyway.
Thanks for sticking up for me LFL. What are friends for? Glad to know you've got my back. Anytime/Everytime Globule. I wish I had friends like you IRL That's for sure. Then we could have coffee and chocolate together!
Ok, that may have been my 10,000th post on your thread so I'm off to get coffee (alone ), except for the kids of course
Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks. Other punctuation marks may go inside or outside depending on the sense of the sentence. I guess that makes me the grammarian (or the grammaw!)...
"What are you doing up posting at close to 4am? I thought you were near the east coast but maybe I was wrong?" I'll tell you in a 'what happened last night' post in a little bit. I actually live in the deep south in a tiny little town that only people from this county have heard of.
"I might get a little cranky in my posts" Yeah, so what else is new.
"I just wanted to die, kill myself, end it" Yet another similarity to our stories. Weird. Boy, knowing how that feels I am sure sorry you had to go through it. It really sucks at the time, and it really sucks afterwards when you realize how close you came to doing something really selfish and dumb. Again, I hope no one thinks I posted that to gain sympathy, quite the opposite. I saw that incident as being a real low point for me. It did give me an appreciation of what people who are in that kind of bad place are going through though.
"I felt so alone" That was the crux of the suicidal feeling. Who could I talk to about this? What do you hear about on TV about "cheaters?" They are the scum of the Earth, just a few steps above serial rapists. Where I live more than half the people in the county are either related to my wife or are friends with the family. I can tell you pretty confidently that if my wife was of the vengeful mindset, there is a non-zero probability that I would just "disappear." You may think that melodramatic, but my FIL has talked about it happening for lesser offenses.\
"I understand!" I can tell. Thanks for being here for me. Today I have gotten myself into "be cool" mode. I'm not going to let anything W does faze me or make me start spouting off stuff. I'm going to try to make that last for a few days and see its effects. It helps that my brothers are coming into town to visit the newborn, and a good friend is stopping by on Friday. If I have some fun to look forward to, then I can usually be Mr. Cool during the work times. I can work hard as long as I know I'm going to get to play hard.
"You know I waver back and forth several times in one day so my next post might be totally melancholy" I know the feeling.
Oh god! No way would I be listening to that song late at night when I am lonely. Are you sure YOU don't have brass ones?
Thanks for the motivating post. It does help. I hope you don't get tired of hearing me say "thanks for being my friend" cause I think I'll probably say it a lot.
"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"
Quote: Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks. Other punctuation marks may go inside or outside depending on the sense of the sentence.
I know that's true of actual quotations, but does it also apply when you're using the quotation marks just to set something apart? Or maybe in that case I should have used apostrophes to set them apart?
"I feel the need to throw in here that it's going to take some time...if you can channel your energy to see this as a challenge, it may help with the sense of urgency you feel." Good words, I need to hear that kind of thing over and over until it sticks. I am SUCH an impatient person when there is a problem to be solved. I'm the kind of person that if someone wrote a physics problem down on a piece of paper and put it on my desk, I wouldn't be able to stop myself from trying to solve it right then and there.
"It's like you and W have to build your own marital interferometer to chart out new territory...the C will help to provide a clean lens, but there is going to be a lot of trial and error." NICE!!!! I always appreciate astronomy analogies. I'm definitely into kicking my relationship analysis up into high resolution mode. And there is nothing worse than a dirty lens to foul up your image. Of course, you can correct almost anything these days with good flat fielding (I'll be impressed if you catch that one ).
"What kind of influence does her mother have on her?" Too much if you ask my opinion. One of our worst arguments got started about a year ago when I told W that I hope she doesn't turn into her mother (YIKES that was a bad call on my part, gotta work on my internal filter). You know, her mother isn't overall a bad person, but she has some things that really torque me for some reason, and a some of those things rubbed off on the W. For example, her mother will absolutely be in tears if someone is coming over to visit and she doesn't have time to make the house absolutely spotless. My wife was that way for awhile, but fortunately she found the "fly lady" stuff on the web which helped her calm down. Also the MIL is very much into all this ultra-politeness stuff. Being polite is good, don't get me wrong, but you can take it to extremes. MIL actually got on my case not too long ago because I was teaching D2^2 my real name. She was going on about how I shouldn't teach them to say the first names of adults because they should always refer to them as Mr or Mrs so-and-so. Yuck!
"Somewhere she has internalized the message that it's reasonable to give up a sensual identity...I can tell you that underneath, she is not happy about this. Your changes will help to create health within her, a win-win situation for the whole family." Boy I hope you are right, because I am not seeing ANY sensuality coming out of her right now. And she seems to be more scared of the changes in me than it helping her find her innner sensual side. Time and patience ... Time and patience, gotta keep repeating that to myself.
Thanks. He is great. He makes the cutest little cooing sounds after he is fed, breaks my heart.
I love good music.
"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"
), except for the kids of course 
