"But, she needs to LEARN from it herself if things in the M are to get better. Only time will tell." That is the key for sure. I am really hoping that the W will join me in doing some relationship building "exercises", whether they be things the C suggests, or SSM, or Marriage Builders, or Relationship Rescue or something.
As far as the rest of your responses, I'll have to admit that I am mostly just confused. Somehow I've got to get her to talk, even if it means she tells me she has lost all respect for me, hates me, will never feel affection for me, or is just having a hard time and wants to make things work but doesn't know how. Communication is what is missing.
"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"
