Globe,

Though I do not agree in whole with Cobra that now you have your wife pegged. I do have to say this statement stood out to me

Do you see now why there is no way she could have sex with you, or even consider it. In fact, your asking any mad her madder since you seemed even more selfish after hurting her so massively.

The reason is since your other post of lying on the floor crying in front of your wife after ending the relationship with other woman. I was thinking maybe she did not react because she was not allowed time to react. Maybe she finds your actions of feeling sorry for yourself over the lose of OW as selfish and is disgusted with it. I am sorry but if my H behaved as such I would find it incredulous. That instead of crying out of sorrow for the pain inflicted on me the wife he would be crying out of lose of the OW in my presence and find myself very appalled in his presense.
I am not trying to be harsh. But I have given this much thought as to how I would respond in this sitch over the last day or so. And that is pretty much it.
The image of a adult male lying on the floor crying is very overwhelming to me though. I have never experienced anything of the sort in my 41 years. Of course there has only been one emotional male involved in my life so I would be out of my league in how to deal with this.

I have a really emotional nephew but he uses tears to manipulate people at times and I am very aware of this. So I do not deal with his crying I will end a conversation with him as soon as he starts. He called me this summer crying when he had a flat tire and could not make it to the house to see me. I hesitate to say I was fairly put off with him and after the second call just did not answer the phone any more.
The only other association I have of a male crying was when my step dad would come home and start a fight with my mom ie dinner was not good enough the table was not set right what ever. Half way through a screaming jag he would then start yelling how she was trying to give him a heart attach and crying. I remember being appalled by his behavior he started the fights and then wanted sympathy from my mom. So maybe the image of a male crying is just one of those things through past association I feel as unmanly. And it may not relate to your sitch at all.


As to your continued contact with other woman via mutual friend. I do not know that would be considered contact if you are not sending messages through her. If she is more of a sounding board who on occassion gives you updates of OW sitch without playing middle man to the two of you it is not really contact IMO. Though it does keep you thinking about her which may not be in your best interest.
But you will discontinue this when you are ready.

Hope you have a fun night with the kids!