Blackfoot.

Well two statements stuck with me from this post.

I am trying to give the guys insight into a girls mind so they can be attractive from her perspectivem, not theirs. , and use there sitch to give specifics.

It never fails when I am working with a guy and say something to him ,unfiltered and ungaurded and irritating to you girls that has you all come yelling and hollering.

Well if you consider coming forth and giving a womans perspective of what we would see as attractive vs non attractive,convincing vs non convincing as yelling and hollering I will fess up and say I am guilty.
Though in truth I believe most post her have been confirmation of your statement to Cemar that he needs to be more decisive in his words and statements then yelling and hollering. But that may be some form of filtered opinion filled with hidden meanings since I am a woman right?

If you consider as a male you are better equiped to give a another person female insight and perspectives then those who are female I think that a little illogical but okay. Though I do feel you may better equate it to the mans line of thinking.

I wish you luck with CeMar. Maybe with your ego and humor you will be able to get him in to respond to you in ways others have not been able to. For his sake and his wifes I hope someone suceeds with this soon.

As always your post was a pleasure to read.
I knew this thread would become interesting.

Oh yeah just a little warning there is a frying pan that flies around here on occassion to wack people in the head. To many inflamatory remarks and you may want to dunk.
lol I love cyberland