Holy sh!t You are going to have to wait a minute again CeMar.
GEL and Zbube dialogue is sooooooo important in the difference between and mans perspective and a womans.
What CeMar said and what GEL and every other girl heard were completely different. HMMMMMM. Damn girls are filtering us and stuff. --What did he mean by that.-- ROFLOL.
To a guy age and shape are important, and that is the way almost every guy would answer. I bet Cemar is goodlooking, and sounds like he is a somebody in his career.
But Gel said it exactly how a woman wants to hear it. With confidance.
--Hey baby, ever date someone as good looking as me? -- said with humor, the less physically handsome you are the more a woman will love/ or at least laugh at this line. Making a woman laugh is good. Do IT.
Its funny I didnt ask CeMar if he was good looking, I said are you attractive. He like most men thinks that means looks --much as his statement about his peers having younger wives is (not wrong) typical male thinking. CeMar when I was asking if you were attractive I was really asking if you are someone who your wife should or would want to have be in love with and hence have sex with.
You arent entitled to it, because of success or what you provide, that would make her a hooker.
I bust on your ass like crazy for two reasons, 1 you need to lighten up, Life is supposed to be fun. You arent going to look back and go damn I am glad I was grumpy. I am getting less sex then you, or anyone else on this board probably. I dont even have a woman, or a prospect.
2 you need to be able to laugh at yourself. Your hesitance to really open up on an ANONYOUS BB says loads. I could walk into your office tomorrow and I wouldnt have the slightest clue. What are your faults. lets hear them. I promise to laugh hysterically.
You have a ton of work to do. Your view of the way things should be is not going to work .
Keep doing the same thing and you will get the same thing.
If you want to stomp your foot and say ML to me then let her go and go find someone new.
Are you willing to change your way of thinking and get in her head? Do you have any idea what she is thinking? What if the prize is ML? Her body has not quit if you can arounse her and bring her to climax.
I know from your post that your W is not ND. fact. I will not tell you how I know, and I hope none of the women here do either. Thats gonna piss you off, but tough bananas dude. I dont know if you can regain her respect, and her desire, but possibly you can try to work on her attraction. and if/when she gives a little you can start to lose some resentment.
I don't know. I dont promise. You got nothing to lose though. except your Bad mental attitude.
You should be so appreciative that she is willing to have sex whenever you want. You have no idea how much she loves you to do that. One key to happiness is being happy with what we have, while we work towards what we want. Be grateful.
That is a start for you. be grateful and find a way to show it in a unexpected manner. and dont expect sex afterwards. sheesh.
you opened up a little so I will answer some questions too. We trigger the sex drive, all you need to understand with that is we are the initiators, are you reading OG Lou's thread too? You and he have same prob different reasons. I dont want to repeat what I said there, go read it.
Would a strong confident man actually stay married to a ND women? I say this cause I know many powerful executives in my company have DUMPED their first wives and now have much younger 2nd wives.
The first question is stupid. A woman with a strong confidant man is not ND, unless she has been abused. Has your wife been abused? I need to know.
The second statement .... so they are a a$$hole's who couldnt figure out how to fix what they broke. You are not one of those guys, you have morals, and integrity, and you are here trying.
Unless you want to have multiple women, a new younger wife. I have fantasized about being King Solomon. Ill admit it. 400 wives and 600 concubines. YeeHaa. Sounds like heaven. Make a decision. Which do you want. Envy of your peers is not going to help.
I will not expand on the power of the mans mental state with you at this time. I need to know what yours is. You need to expand on yoursef to me. Trying to vacumn knowledge out of me like a book will not help you. Changing behaiviors and old habits is hard freaking work. HARD. Will you do it for you to be more attractive, period and have a happier life or are you just doing it to get laid. You cant fake this.
I have no freaking clue as to what to change. Sweet. at least you want to. 1 thing at a time. it has been 15- years in the making? It may take 15 months to get some progress. Shrug. you are going to do 180's. lovingly detach, so that you dont feel disrespect and resentment. GAL. ANSWER more of my questions or better yet all of them. I am more obstinate then you.
Yes, my goal is to have a passionate marriage. Good. That is a decision at least.
In my terms, it is the ONLY marriage that is successful. The problem is that passion must be a two way street, which in effect makes desire have to be a two way street. Has any ND ever achieved a PM? Not sure that even in the book PM was there a case of this.
There is no --in your terms --you are in a relationship, not a monarchy. Stop this circular line of thinking, it bores me and just makes you appear NUTSO. She is not ND. I wont say that again. I had a extremely passionate marriage. It was not succesful.
One great part of being a man and the testosterone is we have persistance. Loads of it. we are the hunters, and fishers. oh yeah, you love your wife or you wouldn't still be there. I want a list of all the things you love about her. Before anything else.
