It's ironic that most LD's hate to be needed for "sex", when I believe that they CAUSE sex to be just sex. There is sex, and then there is Making Love. For the last 10-15 years, I have had sex about 10-15 times a year. I don't think we ever ML during those years. When 2 peopple have fairly high levels of desire, then they can ML. But when only ONE of the partnership has desire, then that couple can only have sex. Making Love requires passion, and passion requires desire, and in my marriage there is no passion. THe result is that almost ALL touching both in and out of the bedroom is from me to her, and not the other way. So every time we get together physically, it is "sex" and not "ML". It is almost like she is a masturbation aid for me. She allows me to arrouse her. She allows me to please her. She allows me to have sex with her body. But it is never ML. She never gets into it, she never connects, she is never sexually confident, she is never erotic or sensual, she is never interested in pleasing me, she is just there.
The bad thing about this is that you can not ask someone to ML. You can ask them to have sex, but there is no way to ask for ML. So, can a LD/ND ever get to the point where they can ML?