Karen, In my current drifting around in the doldrums, I think I am discovering that it isn't really about the sex per se at all, rather I think Lillie/MrsNOP hit the nail on the head...it is about being made to feel I am special, that she wants to be with me, to share herself with me. Yeah, sex is part of it, but it is only the tip of the iceberg, and I think perhaps the easiest to pin-point. I think now that I could do without the sex as long as I got that feeling of intimate connection and that she was eager to share herself with me. It isn't just sex she holds back on, it is also intimate conversation. She finds that very difficult, and when pressed into sharing starts analyzing instead of sharing. Normally, she'll only talk about the kids or scouts or the neighbors or anything except her and what she is feeling. Same goes for sharing etc, as well as working together on projects or seeing things. If nothing else, this journey has made me see just how deep the rift is between us, and the frustrating part is that she doesn't seem to want to work to close it.