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#524929 09/03/05 11:59 AM
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PS: It also depends on the person and the circumstances as to what method you use to try and diffuse things.

Maybe buy her some flowers to make amends?

Also, don't take to heart the stuff said in arguments. It's said in anger.

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#524930 09/04/05 03:44 PM
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Wow - another really good update.

The phone rang this afternoon and it was Andy. He asked if I would watch the kids while he went to the supermarket. I said yes.

He brought them round and then dashed off shopping because the shops were only open for 1 more hour. I supervised the kids who were doing colouring and then I went in the garden with them to keep an eye on them while they played. There were these bigger boys who are really bad behaved who kept spraying water on them so I just yelled at them
'Get off my bloody garden!'
I have no patience for these boys, they are always causing a row and always foul mouthed and I just can't stand them.

Andy turned up a bit later to find all of us sitting in the garden and he said let's go inside, it's too hot, so we did.
He had some juice and the girls built railway track.

Andy told me about this classical music concert he's taking the girls to this evening, as part of their home ed and he asked me what I had planned for the week. I told him I am meeting a friend tomorrow.

Those horrible boys came back and were spraying our girls again, so Andy said
'Jo, go and yell at them in your scary voice.'

So I went out there and shouted at them to get off my lawn.
Then a minute later, DD2 came in crying because she was soaked from these water guns so we both went out and yelled at the little sods to keep away from our daughters and stop making them cry.

The neighbour came out and we were both standing there in the street so we got chatting to her about home ed (Andy started the convo).

After this half hour 3 way convo, I went back up to the house and left him with the neighbour, except he followed me back up the steps to my house. Now it takes me a while to get up steps so he sort of pushed up behind me on purpose and brushed himself against my...er..arse, for want of a better word!

I turned around and said
'And what exactly are you doing?'
And he grinned at me.

We went into the house and he asked the girls to put the toys away because they'd be late for the concert.
He sat on the sofa and took my hand again and then kissed me. I looked at him and said
'Andy, the last time this happened you got scared. You f**ked me senseless for four and a half months until I was totally besotted with you and then you ran away.'
He said
'I know'.
'So' I said to him, 'I'm not doing this with you if you're going to run away again. It has to be for keeps this time.'
'I'm not going anywhere' he answered.
I would have mentioned OW2 but he was just about to leave so I didn't feel it was the right time.
He kissed me again and wouldn't let go and said he didn't want to leave.

DD1 said she'd put the toys back so I kissed all the DD's goodbye and DD4 had a cuddle with Andy, then he told them to go and get in the car.

I followed him to the door to say goodbye when he just grabbed me and kissed me again and he was shaking. We pulled away from each other and he went to wash his face in the bathroom as he was seriously in a state by this time

Then he whispered 'I'm coming back.' at me, and left.

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#524931 09/04/05 03:52 PM
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Wow!

Now that's what I call progress! There is nothing to say, but way to go. Well, the words are certainly there. He's saying all the right things. Don't know what I would do. Actually, I do know. If it was my wife kissing me, getting horny, and then saying "I'll be back", there isn't any way I could resist when she did. Nor should I since to her sex is a VERY meaningful thing. She doesn't give it out. I'm sure you know what your situation calls for. Hope to hear your update within the next 3 or 4 hours. Congratulations Jo on the tremendous improvement in your situation.


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#524932 09/04/05 04:27 PM
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Hello There

Well, it probably won't be 3 or 4 hours because he's got this concert, then there's a firework display on and by the time he's got home and put the kids to bed, it will be about 10.30pm and then he'd have to persuade Rose (ex-ow's 18 year old DD) to stay in the house and babysit, so I am thinking he probably meant another day some time very soon.

I definitely have to discuss OW2 with him before I allow this to progress any further. I need to know that she's gone and also that if I allow this, that he will be faithful and that he's committed, seriously committed. I want positive answers on all of these, otherwise I am not going to let him touch me again.

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Good for you!!!!

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Well, he's come back to me and then left several times now in these past 3 years so I need concrete reassurance from him that he has finally decided to be my life-partner before I would have a sexual R with him.

I need to know it's different from the other times and that he permanently gives up his OW and gives me the proper R that I deserve. I will be totally upfront with him about it, because I don't want to sleep with him and then have him run off yet again and break my heart.

He has to act like a husband, and not only that, announce it to all the relatives etc. If he accepts that, he can have me. I want it to be making love, not sex.

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Very positive news, Jo! I leave for a few days, and you surprise me even more.

I'm very happy about the turn in your sitch! Seems like your steadfast stance is working. Keep us posted, will you?

(not much advice, or things to say, as my sitch is still running somewhat south. At the moment, I feel a bit rudderless).

Gabriel


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#524936 09/04/05 05:26 PM
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Gabriel

You are NOT rudderless. I'm sorry you feel bad at the moment. I hope my good luck doesn't make you feel worse.

If you need to talk about it, you can either post here or email me. I don't know if I can do any good, but it sometimes helps to unload burdens on others.

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Thanks for that vote of confidence, Jo.

I'm alright, just a little p!ssy/controlling. Slap me upside the head, would you?

Gabe.


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#524938 09/04/05 06:41 PM
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I don't hit people. It isn't kind

(((Gabe)))

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