But she used to say her favorite thing was laying her head on my chest. That would be a good place to start; saying and doing it. Maybe brushing up against me more. Maybe putting her hand on mine if we were sitting together. And the hardest one of all, maybe she could have found it within herself to just be happier more when I was around.

My god BB can I borrow your wants and put them into my H's head if only to find a guy that would like that intamacy, H always said I was too touchy feely. You did say something that bothered me though...
I don't know how long she would have had to do it with zero expectations before I felt special again and wanted to return her affection with interest.
Can I just say on this point when you give to someone lovingly like holding their hand or other terms of affection just to show you care if it is not returned at least a bit it makes you feel very insecure and that the other person doesn't have the same feelings for you which hurts. Just wanted to point that bit out. I could rub my H's back or massage him as that was doing something he enjoyed and I loved to touch him but see snuggling on the couch or too many kisses or hugs for the hell of it, then that was smothering to him. I also wanted sex more than him so sometimes doing all the touchy feely things with no thoughts of sex doesn't always mean that sex will happen along on it's own either when you are not both connecting on the same level it's never gonna happen. Sorry for the doom and gloom but that is my opinion. i am willing to hear comments against what i said though...
Heather I am still following your thread got a bit off track then all I can say to you is be true to you and look after you first, if H wants to work at this he needs to show it you as you have done all the work so far sometimes you gotta say I've tried hard and what will be now will be....Sorry this seems to be the same advice I am giving everyone at the moment but it is where my head is at and I understand not everyone is at the same point. (((()))))Hugs to you and keep strong....KDU


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