Cathy (and MrsNOP, really, as this applies to her post on CeMar's thread as well):

I suppose that's mostly true -- many HD husbands do need to "grow a pair," as NOPkins likes to say from time to time. And intellectually, many of them know it, as Paul probably does -- he needs to be more confident, and strong.

But the "Catch-22" that often happens is, men -- especially HD ones -- derive their confidence and their strength largely from how we feel about our sex life.

So it ends up: To improve your sex life, you have to become less "needy" and more attractive to your wife. In order to become more attractive to her, you have to become stronger and more confident. BUT TO BECOME STRONGER AND MORE CONFIDENT, YOU NEED TO HAVE A BETTER SEX LIFE!

It's tough to break into that "circle" and grow the pair you need.

Choc., who -- despite all of the above -- would still tell that woman that SHE can leave the BR!