NR,

I don't think that your wife is really aware of the road you are travelling and what is ahead if things don't change.

I think MOST women complain naturally. My little girl does! Somehow each one has to see themself, what they are doing, and how it sounds!

People have to CHOOSE to be happy and upbeat. And like Bambi said for a Disney Movie, "If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all."

I agree about spending the $$ at Disney. Been there done that!

My realization of complaining came in 3 ways 1) I saw other women to it...UGLY 2) I heard myself...UGLY and then 3) My H pointed it out....in my Opinion very hurtfully...nonetheless..got the point across.

Also...what is she doing with the kids and no sex...killing your M. Can you tell her that? Can you tell her what it has done to others?

How about taking her away a few days. Women are connected to their environment. Or send the kids to a friends house or family for a night. Just have fun and Sex too.

I think that you are trying to be Mr. Perfect and speaking from a woman who has been where she is...DON"T just try to be Mr. Perfect hoping that she'll want to do differently.

What I would have wanted was 1) You trying to be Mr. Perfect but then 2) Make a point to have a heart to heart talk. Not in passing. At dinner with the 2 of you. And keep doing that until she hears you. Tell her how much you love her, how much she means to you, ...she NEEDS to talk to an older and wiser woman that she respects to clue her in on your S desires being good,great, and normal. I don't really know that she'll hear you about it. Not where she is at. But, anyway you do need to C with her about it. I'd talk about what I read that happens to other COuples going down the road you are on...what comes next and how you don't want that to happen.

FInd a lady somewhere...do you go to church? That would be a great resouce...or a friend or neighbor. A woman who can clue her in!!!!!!! Then she does need to hear from you too.

Oh, well. I sure don't have it all together. I just know what I wish I would have had to make my road easier. But I'm going to make the best of the one I am on and enjoy my ride! It is the only one I have!!!!

Best Wishes
Nicegal