PHM- I am new to this board and you are the first to have the same situation as minethat I have found. I notice the dates are from 6 months ago on this post. Any advice would be apprecaited. I was not there for my H physically and emotionally and realize just how much so the past few days. It is heartbreaking to realize how cruel I have been to H. Was my own stubbornness and stupidty to close my eyes to what I was doing. H has moved out and told me it is time to get on with our lives. We have 3 kids and I see him most everyday. I see small steps and signs that he does still care. I also see he is scared and becomes automatic in response to any offer of spending time without kids. H has OW and believe it is more of the idea than the OW. H said he wasnot willing to give up that OW to try to work it out with me. H said scared of it being the same old thing. H is a very caring and giving person most of the time and I realize what a taker I had been. I need to be a giver and not sure where to go. ANy ideas of things that did or did not work for you in trying to show you do care and are not interested in the same old ways. I hope your situation has taken a road on the upswing. crushedbyg