Pheonix,I will have to find your thread and read thru your post.I am glad to hear that you got in a nice place by going dark.I myself have been going dark lately and personally I am so scared that it may push my H away further.Yet,at first when I pursued,begged etc. He seemed to hate that too.Yet,when we do have a contact now,which is very rare,he seems to love the hugs and kisses. And also seems to like giving them. I am beginning to just ramble.Anyways,I too find this thread very interesting,thanks so much JJ. Take care.tammy