Kim - Don't think he is ready to sever all ties with OW. I heard Dodger mentioning that if he is commited to the M, he would be begging and all. But from what I see in your sitch (and mine), I don't think we can lay out the cards on what we want yet. Telling him that he can't be with friends with OW if he moves in and all...mmmm I don't know how he will take it. I suppose we can tell them that we've read somewhere blah blah blah...that it would take healing of a M more difficult if there is still contact with OW, and leave it at that. I think the sitch is soooo fragile not that we just cannot DEMAND them to do things that we want. I guessed we just have to continue to be as we are for the last few months... being positive and NOT pursuing and let them come to us. I am saying this for myself too and I hope I will HEAR my own advice to you.