Hey burgbud - Thankyou for that suggestion. I don't know whether I am quite up to it yet as i am trying to keep my distance. (Alot easier said than done) I will certainly keep it in mind though for a little later. I need a few more signs from H first and then I may just do that offer him a Takeaway option. (Has a kind of ring to it doesn't it) Anyway thanks again and am about to cross to your thread to check it out.....see you over there....KDU