Thanks ST, I know it kinda sounded crazy:). I was having a rough time of it when I posted that last one. I have been doing 180s for myself not necessarily for the H. As far as he is concerned atm, I am just his friend and that's what I am focusing on right now. It has sort of helped him open up to me about what he is feeling about our sitch and his R w/ the OW, although I did tell him, talking about the OW does bother and upset me, perhaps, I said, he could find a neutral party to talk to about her. S and I went to our first counseling session last night, H went too, but isn't sure he wants to continue. I did not push. I told him fine, he could just go w/ S if he wanted. There are 10 sessions and it's basically family counselling, mainly to help S get through this. It's free so that is why they focus on the children more than the parents. They say one parent plus child can go at different times, but prefer both parents to be there. So, I figured, if he just wants to go for a session with S alone, let him. I won't persist. As for the other thing...I am just going to hang out w/ friends b/c they make me feel good about myself and i have been feeling kinda low lately...especially w/ my anniv. coming up on Sunday and H going out of town w/ OW today for the w/e. He once again is going to her parent's house. I don't understand..sigh...but i stop thinking about it !:)