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I was in the kitchen at one point and saw a flyer on the counter for a house-for-sale in Rocklin. I asked H, "What's this?" H told me he picked it up when he was out on his first service call. He said, "I don't know....I was just thinking it would be nice to sell this house, move out there because it's a really nice area, and just start all over and be happy." I didn't have anything to say so I started walking away to go to the bathroom, and then I could hear H saying, "I guess I was just hoping to make things better for us.....but I know you hate me, and I still LY....I thought it could be a fresh start for us, and I do want to be together."

WOW, if that ain't the textbook definition of "manipulative", I don't know what is.
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Then H said he was going to play cards.

Hmmm, figure those odds...
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I told H, "This isn't exactly easy on me either. I don't know if it's right, but we're going to find out, and I think we really do need the space from each other, H."

Good for you, JV!!
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So H "sadly" got his keys, wallet, etc to get going

Waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! (Sorry JV, I can be kind of an a*****e sometimes, but hey he made his bed...even if it is on the floor of his friends house)
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H also said something about there not being any food at (mf)'s place as he was walking to the car. I told him, "Well I guess you'd better go grocery shopping then."

Ouch!! Is my a*****e-ness rubbing off on you? Just kidding JV, you're doing spectacular!!! I've always followed your threads but now I can't wait to read about your progress. I don't know if it is progress in your R or not, but it is progress in the life and psyche of JVJKB!!

DMF

JV ROCKS!! Who's with me on that???????