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I don't know how to go about that without the onset of pursuit or pressure felt by my W. I have made offers to do lunch or other things before, but they were rebuffed. So, I don't know the path I'm supposed to follow in this regard. It is really frustrating.





Lunch is too much too soon. I presume by lunch you mean just you and her? That's too much pressure until a comfort level sets in. I was rebuffed with the lunch invites too so don't be discouraged that it will always be that way. I still don't ask her to lunch on weekdays. I would suggest starting with talking to her...I mean when you do the child exchange. Start with a R that centers around your common interest...your child. Do you pick your child up around supper? If so, then sometime just ask.."have you eaten". I phrase it that way all the time. Or say "I'm starving. I don't feel like cooking for me and D. Wanna grab a bite with us?" I don't exactly know how to proceed except start small. The doing things without the kids part of my R is something that has come about through repeated contact that initially always included the children.

Very little to report. I mainly vegged out yesterday and did some work. My wife's family had a get together that I was invited to, but it was out of town and I couldn't make it. I was hoping my W would at least ask if I was going out there. I did see that she called yesterday afternoon so maybe she was going to ask. She also called this am to see what I did yesterday. That was nice of her.

Anyway, that's all for now.


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