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I have seen a much more positive attitude in you here lately, but to see you call her 'the wife', well that just makes me groan inside... ugh, he's one of 'those' guys... Not very f*ckable in my mind, sorry! Even if you never say it in front of her, women can pick up on that attitude Cemar, and this may be what is turning your W off of kissing/touching/ML.

What's wrong with "the wife"? It's not like he wrote "that old battle axe" or "the ball-and-chain."

I don't really know much about Cemar. Except his situation is remarkably similar to mine. For all you know he might be a very fine husband. He might be doing all he can.

Let's cut C a little slack . He comes here and rants. We all do. The consistency of his message shows that he is not getting anywhere. Neither am I . I'm just a little more fatalistic than he is, I guess.

Hang in there C! I'm rooting for ya!

SM

"If we will be quiet and ready enough, we shall find compensation in every disappointment."
Henry David Thoreau